George and Laurie add their hearts to the conversation about racism. We need to have the conversations that are uncomfortable. If we’re marginalized, we have to protest – the rage and anger makes sense. As a former first responder, it breaks George’s heart to see the men watching the murder of George Floyd. Where were their feelings? Shut down. Blocked. Trained to be closed. If we can train people to shut down their feelings we can train them to turn on their feelings and be in touch when their humanity is essential. Join Laurie and George as they talk about what’s happening in the world.